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04 April 2008 @ 08:00 am
On Discovery: Ethical Euthanasia?  
You stumble upon a crypt lined with some form of stasis chamber. Assuming you understand how to do both, how do you choose between reviving the chambered and disabling their life support? Our instinctive choice is to revive them, or at least to allow their continued stasis, but if they have been there for hundreds or thousands of years, the difference in immunology may make them immediately susceptible to terrible diseases that would've been super-bugs in their day. Alternatively, they may carry some relatively common disease considered destroyed for aeons: their release could wreak havoc.

Not the cheeriest of morning thoughts; what are your thoughts on the scenario?
SephirothRebornsephirothreborn on April 4th, 2008 10:38 pm (UTC)
Well, that scenario isn't exact...I'd figure most diseases from their day would've been wiped out with the stasis; and without waking them, they'd just stay that way anyway, so the idea of diseases of our day being a threat is sorta moot - yeah they could die, but aren't they basically that way already?

As to the risk to the modern human race...hmm. It's a valid concern, so you'd want to take precautions, but leaving them there seems to be the easy way out, not even trying to save them. To quarantine them with, say, an equal number of modern workers such that at worst we lose as many of us as them would be fair from the utilitarian view, yeah? So something like that, just be careful about it but awakening them seems the kindest option.
blackberet: cafeblackberet on April 5th, 2008 03:51 am (UTC)
I admit that my ears prick up when I hear someone invoke utilitarianism. One could justify an awful lot of nasty shit with utilitarian logic...

I was also going to suggest reviving them and keeping them under quarantined observation until such time as they could be deemed "safe."
SephirothRebornsephirothreborn on April 5th, 2008 08:33 am (UTC)
Yeah, I know utilitarianism is risky business; but the worst-case is some disease that would probably spread to the observers anyway, so any case of revival would pose that risk. Whether one actually invokes the term or not, the observers are going to be put at some risk for these unfrozen people, a risk we both seem to conclude as being worthwhile.

Although I'd also probably have played with ice-nine a bit, so my risk-assessment might not be the most trustworthy.
blackberetblackberet on April 5th, 2008 05:28 pm (UTC)
Well, they wouldn't necessarily be at a significant risk of infection. I mean, you keep the unfrozen people in a sterile environment; you could have observers in hazmat suits...I don't think quarantining the workers is entirely necessary, or at the least I wouldn't quarantine the two groups in the same environment. Your suggestion sounded a bit like, "Let's lock the unfrozen people and the drones in a room and see who dies first."
SephirothRebornsephirothreborn on April 5th, 2008 06:42 pm (UTC)
Ah, I get it. No, I wasn't suggesting that, was just saying that even should something horrible go wrong, costing the staff their lives, the loss is only as great (here's the utilitarian bit) as it would be to kill off the unfrozen people. Obviously the observers would take precautions, that's the whole point of a quarantine.
blackberetblackberet on April 6th, 2008 05:01 pm (UTC)
Do you get the sense we've just done one of Dave's homework assignments for him?
Scary The Davescarythedave on April 6th, 2008 05:04 pm (UTC)
::knowing chuckle::

Not at all, my pets...not at all...

SephirothRebornsephirothreborn on April 6th, 2008 08:36 pm (UTC)
Damn you Howcroooooft!
Bastiendorangildas on April 5th, 2008 07:14 am (UTC)
To my Roman Catholic raised sensibilities, it wouldn't be my place to play God in the decision, nor would I be self-righteous enough to feel like I could make such a decision on my own.

Better to discern who, or what, is in the pod and where it came from. If, theoretically, it were a being from an earlier time, an extinct race lets say, what sort of knowledge could it bring us?

I would lean more towards reviving, but only after weighing my options, doing as much background on the pod and it's contents as possible, and taking precautions during the revival process, much like Matt and Elisabeth talked about.